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Ineffective Clergy pt 2 PDF Print E-mail
Written by Administrator   
Sunday, 27 May 2007

See part 1 of this multi-part series of posts regarding the UMC’s study that found ineffective clergy the biggest obstacle to overcoming the denomination’s 40 year decline.

2) My question today is: Does low pay effect the quality of pastors? Disclaimer: I am not arguing that clergy pay is low or that it should be raised. I am not arguing that we have a majority of ineffective clergy. I am, for the sake of argument, agreeing that there are ineffective clergy in the UMC.

If the UMC’s problem is ineffective clergy, then why does there seem to be so many? (See part 1 [link] for background information)

As I pondered this, I began to wonder if issues of clergy pay could be an issue. Usually pay has a correlation to effectiveness. The most effective employees usually end up being the best paid. This isn’t always true, but it usually is.

Are clergy underpaid? The question has been asked before and we could gather statistics, etc. It is difficult to judge what ‘fair’ pay would be. I guess it depends on a pastor’s effectiveness, but even that is difficult to judge.

Salary is an issue when individuals decide to leave the ministry because they don’t feel like they can provide for their families on the salary they receive. If there was a really talented individual, s/he could probably make more money elsewhere. A friend of mine left the pastorate (for reasons other than pay) and ended up making more than s/he ever did being a pastor. Most pastors don’t join the UMC to become rich, but could it be that some [effective] pastors have left because they could find better opportunities elsewhere? Could it be that some [ineffective] pastors have stayed because they couldn’t do anything else?


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Ineffective Clergy pt 1 PDF Print E-mail
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Wednesday, 16 May 2007
just love studies. I love them even more when I have to keep asking myself questions about them. This study leaves me asking quite a few questions. So, I thought I would share my questions here…with anyone who cares.

Basically the study reports that the reason the UMC has declined over the past 40 years are because of ineffective clergy. Now, I’m not questioning that there are ineffective clergy. I’m not even questioning that ineffective clergy are a ‘drain’ on the time and energy of the Bishops and DSs. What I am question is the belief that this is the cause of the UMC’s decline.

I believe that are deeper issues regarding the decline in the UMC. Ineffective clergy don’t help the situation, but I’m not sure they are the main problem. I want to post several blog entries discussing some of the deeper issues I see. To be honest, I’m not even sure where to begin with all of this. Perhaps I should start by admitting that I do not believe that I have the answers. I do have questions though. For this first post, my question is:

Could there really be such a simple cause?


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Practical Side of Missional PDF Print E-mail
Written by Jeff   
Friday, 11 May 2007

I am often asked how does an individual practice the “missional mindset”. Just read a good example from the Blind Beggar Blog, here is the quote:

“When the new neighbors move in you go knock on the door and welcome them to the neighborhood, you talk about football and fishing over the fence, you invite him out…and get acquainted. You invite them over for barbeque and listen to his lame jokes with grace. When he tells you about the problems he is having at work, you talk about your struggles also and how God has helped you through them. When the wife’s dad dies, you let them know you are praying for them. When he asks about what you do with your spare time, you humbly tell him how you work down at The Bridge with street kids every other month, how you help with a homeless ministry, tutor students in reading at the local high school, and have a wonderful community of faith that you love being involved with. You live a modest low consumption lifestyle before them. You pray for them regularly and are always ready to talk about why you’re living the way you are.”

The article includes several other examples of everyday missional living. For me living missionally is simply living my everyday life with God.


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What we Can Do PDF Print E-mail
Written by Administrator   
Monday, 07 May 2007
Basically, we have to rethink who we are, what we do and what we’ve been doing. There is an excellent post over at Goodmanson.com about the decline of the Western church. That post pretty much sums up what I’ve been trying to share and convince others of. I believe it is time in the UMC that we stop trying to do the same things, believing that if we just did those things better, or smarter, we would be effective for the kingdom. It is time that the church stop preaching the “Come Grow with Us” mantra and begin to “Go out and Go deep.” (A reference to the post).
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Mourning the Loss PDF Print E-mail
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Sunday, 06 May 2007
I was very sad when I read the news of Robert Webber’s death. His Ancient-Future series has done a lot for my thinking about both the early church and the contemporary church in America. He will be missed, but hopefully his work and thought will continue to transform.
 
Missional Preaching PDF Print E-mail
Written by Administrator   
Sunday, 29 April 2007

Preaching is an interesting act. Once a week I take my place up front and I talk. What I talk about is up to me. Sometimes I choose the text and other times the text is chosen for me. What I’ve realized is how I can use that time to help cultivate various atmospheres in the church I serve.

Over the past ten years I have become increasingly convinced that a missional atmosphere in a church is not only important but essential in the 21st century. Others are leaning the same way. Church planters have an advantage here because they do not have to fight the history of a church that tends to delude any missional focus. Those of us in traditional churches have history that we have to battle.

To believe that one can take an already organized traditional church and transition it to a missional mindset quickly is naive. Perhaps we can add programs that look missional, or have missional components, but that is not the same as cultivating a missional mindset or atmosphere in the church’s “DNA.”
Preaching is an important aspect (although some missional church planters contest this point) of ministry because it can serve to gradually change the atmosphere in a church. Therefore, it should not be entered into lightly. The weekly sermon can be used to help cultivate a transition to missional.

When I preach, there are foundational assumptions that affect how I preach and even how I read the text for the day. These assumptions guide me. I also understand that they color (some might say cloud) how I read the passage, but we all have assumptions when we read any text. At least I know what some of mine are.

I believe the following assumptions are missional in nature. Because of that, I also believe, they are important for those in a traditional church who yearn to help a congregation transition to a missional mindset. I’m sure I have other assumptions. I’m also sure that I have some that are not reflected in this list. But, to start the conversation, here they are:



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